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Date: Fri, 01 Oct 1999 11:26:55 -0500
From: Don Kugle <dkugle@earthlink.net>
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To: "Queen, Charles W" <Charles.Queen@PSS.Boeing.com>
Subject: Re: O-30 Mast/Rigging Questions
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I am rebuilding an Olson 30 in the Houston/Galveston Bay Area (Hull #158,=
"The Hawk"). I have the only O-30 in the area so it is difficult to lea=
rn from looking at other boats. Have read virtually everything on the bo=
ard relating to hull, rigging, etc. This boat will be used exclusively f=
or PHRF racing on Galveston Bay and offshore in the Gulf. Would apprecia=
te any help with the following questions from anyone:
- Am converting the single spreader rig to doubles (have parts from Ba=
llenger). Can I assume that baby stay can be eliminated ?
- Plan to stiffen hull with 2" square aluminum beam between chainplates.=
What are the "jock straps" that I have seen mentioned on some posts ? =
Is the hold down fitting from the forward face of the mast up to the deck=
necessary ? This fitting is missing on my boat but from my reading it s=
eems to be inadequate and/or underdesigned.
- From reading old specs on the boat it sounds like some boats had an =
adjustable mast butt. Do competitive boats have adjustable steps ? I am=
going to have to rebuild the mast step due to compression of the primary=
cross member (had dropped about 9/16"). If adjustable step is desirable=
does any one know of a good source ? I will talk to Buzz Ballenger abou=
t this but have not been able to reach him yet.
- Running backstays, I know class rules don't allow them but would any=
one advise their use for PHRF. Will probably fit t-ball sockets for runn=
er and checkstay anyway so I'll have the option once I learn to sail the =
boat.
- tiller yoke fitting, my welded fitting is broken, anyone know of an =
off-the shelf source for a strong replacement ?
Thanks for any comments or help.
Don Kugle
Queen, Charles W wrote:
> Hi Ian, Your single spreader rig will point just fine. I'm not an expe=
rt, but I've learn a few things this season about ours. Like I've said b=
efore, I was real hot to convert to the double spreader rig when we first=
got Barnstormer, but not now. I now think with our rig we have an advan=
tage over the other boats. Aside from the lower weight and reduced winda=
ge, the mast is more adjustable and tune-able (is that a word?). We are =
just now starting to adjust our rig rakes and tensions for varying wind/s=
ea conditions. Something I've not heard talked about too much in the flee=
t as of yet.
>
> Pointing is a function of balancing mast rake, sheet tension/angle, and=
weather helm with speed through the water. On Barnstormer we tend to fo=
ot more than other Olsons and sail with looser sheets, our net VMG is usu=
ally faster this way. We have suffered occasionally in really flat water=
where high pointing angles can be more effective. Road Runner has saile=
d away from us several times this season in these conditions. However, w=
e did sail against three well sailed J29s in Vancouver BC at the WAVES Re=
gatta with very good success. Your Olson should be able to out perform a=
ny J29 in any condition.
>
> RR had a great regatta this last weekend. Not only did they sail smart=
and make few mistakes, they were sailing very fast. In the races they w=
on easily, it was flat water and a freshening breeze. They just sailed a=
way from us at the start, twice. Yesterday in the boat yard, I climbed a=
round both boats (with John Hoag's permission) and took some numbers. We=
have done this before, but the numbers I recorded yesterday off RR were =
different than before. I measured head stay length, mast height off the =
deck, and mast rake. They were: RR - 37' 9.125" (HS), 35' 0.5" (mast), 3=
8' 11" (rake).....BS - 37' 7.825", 35' 1", 39' 2.25". These numbers are =
as measured from - the top of the jib (center) halyard to the center of t=
he headstay pin, the top of the main halyard to flush on the deck, and th=
e top of the main halyard to the center edge on the transom. As a result,=
I've lengthen my headstay a little to see how this changes our performan=
ce.
>
> What I would recommend to improve your point/speed VMG, is to set your =
rake at 39' 1" to 39'' 2" or so, don't sheet tighter than 6" off that sin=
gle spreader, and keep those tail-tales streamlining aft.....don't PINCH!=
Let your keel do the work. Error on the side of more twist (both main =
and genoa), and remember with the main, keep that traveler low..."Bubbles=
are Fast". Sail FLAT FLAT FLAT with a full load of 1250 pounds on the r=
ail.
>
> Chuck Queen
> Barnstormer #31
> Owner/Driver
>
> > ----------
> > From: Alex Krawarik[SMTP:Alexk@activexchange.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 1999 11:38 PM
> > To: 'ian anderson'; olson30@sailpix.com
> > Subject: RE: O-30 performance
> >
> > Hi Ian, I own one of the two single spreader rigs currently racing in=
the
> > Seattle area. Chuck Queen owns the very successful single-spreader
> > Barnstormer, 1999 national champ. On my boat we go pretty well upwind=
, but
> > point a little low because our sails suck.We go average downwind. J's=
don't
> > tend to point as well upwind, but this is experience from J/24's.
> >
> > How heavy is the boat? The lightest boats are dry-stored and around 5=
0
> > pounds above min weight.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ian anderson [mailto:iander@email.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 1999 11:01 PM
> > To: olson30@sailpix.com
> > Subject: O-30 performance
> >
> >
> > Our team could use some help with the performance of our single sprea=
der
> > O-30 racing in a phrf fleet. I've tried everything I've seen in the =
web
> > page but we just can't seem to sail to our # (99) against J29's and =
34's.
> > We are the only O-30 around and therefore don't have the luxury of sa=
iling
> > with a tuning partner.
> > The J's outpoint us going uphill. Is this common? Should we not wor=
ry>
> > about height so much and just foot for speed? I've heard of moving th=
e genoa
> > tracks inboard and moving the primaries to the cabin top. Does that w=
ork
> > well? What about hoisting problems?
> >
> > We don't seem to be blazing down wind either, my guesse is that we a=
re too
> > deep, is there a consensus on what is fastes for say 8-12 knots?
> >
> > Any suggestions from the group especially from single spreader boats =
will be
> > greatly appreciated. I know this is a lot to ask but we are desperate=
to get
> > this boat up to speed.
> >
> > thank you
> > Ian
> >
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