Hey Bill and all, I thought the awards and raffle, in addition to being
great, fun and exciting, were especially "tasteful and unique"!!!
Thanks Mike, I miss you already!!!!!!!!!!
Ed
William Wildner wrote:
> Another Year, another Night of too much fun. My head still hurts.
>
>
>
> Thanks to all that attended, and thanks to Mike for a year of service
> and fine job at that.
>
>
>
> The awards were great and the raffle was fun and exciting.
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> *From:* Welch, Michael j [mailto:MWelch@rwbaird.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, February 27, 2006 2:14 PM
> *To:* Welch, Michael j; Robert Gordenker(TIME MACHINE); William Wildner
> *Cc:* Lance Smotherman; Bernoulli59@aol.com; greggwhip@aol.com;
> JMamboKing@aol.com; ebayer@cityofwarren.org; groupgriffin@comcast.net;
> JenkinsEmail@comcast.net; lee.e.sutton@comcast.net;
> jcb13@daimlerchrysler.com; jenkinsw@dteenergy.com;
> waw82652@hotmail.com; luiz@intercreate.com; CHerriges@usmfg.com;
> billvogan@yahoo.com; kappoulos@yahoo.com; chuck@southbayllc.com;
> DENMEAGHER@cs.com; scottusmagnus@comcast.net; greggwhip@aol.com;
> Bernoulli59@aol.com; luiz@intercreate.com; valsaph@ees.eesc.com;
> Sailski1@yahoo.com; Meliacarter@aol.com; Robert Gordenker(TIME
> MACHINE); CHerriges@usmfg.com; dpeppel@att.net; kqu1289@wideopenwest.com
> *Subject:* RE: 2006 Official Skippers Meeting Recap
>
>
>
> Delete the previous email, did not have all skippers on the list.
> This one is the OFFICIAL recap.
>
> In attendance:
>
>
>
> Chris Herriges, Bill Wildner, Bill Jenkins, Bill Vogan, Denny
> Meagher, Ken Quincy, Ed Bayer, and new co-owner of Falcon - Jim, and
>
> me.
>
>
>
> There was discussion on LHOOD, it will be kept on as a counting
> regatta. There is enough interest in the race to do it, period.
> The race committee has been doing a good job the last 2 years, and
> it is a nice gesture to our fellow Port Huron racers in hopes of
> furthering class participation.
>
> The NSSC was considered as a counting regatta, but not voted in.
>
>
>
> Ed Bayer is the new class president - congratulations Ed!
>
>
>
> Now.............. IRC. Since the **endorsed **certificate is
> going to be mandatory next year, the plan is to ask all those
> doing the race if they would be willing to get the **endorsed**
> certificate now.
>
> Many of you, Chris Herriges (Train), Mike Elliot(Bernoulli), Dick
> Scott(Cross Check), Richard Huneke(Griffin), Bill Vogan(Major
> Detail), Robert Gordenker (Time Machine), said you would prefer
> not to do it, but would for the good of the class. Denny Meagher
> has Snipe in the shop and is unsure. Greg Whipple (Whiplash) is
> yes. Bill White (Steelin' Gold) is "skip if possible". Ken
> Quincy (PDQ Express) is no. Mimi Carter (Special K) is out of
> town, no response. Val Saph (Rowdy), no response. Teacher's Pet
> was not asked (yet). Wild Ride, Scandal, Falcon are endorsed.
> Cracker Jack is gone, Bretwalda likely to follow. That's 3 in, 1
> yes, 6 to follow, 5 no or no response(so far), 2 gone for a total
> of 17 which was 1 more than last years # of participants.
>
> We need 10 for our own class. We have 10. We want to race with
> as many in the class as possible, since it will be mandatory next
> year, it would be nice to have all IRC.
>
> Bill White, Ken, Mimi, Val, would you be willing to get your
> endorsed certificate this year?
>
> It would be best done, and probably cheaper to have it measured
> before it goes in the water. Luiz, Lance, anybody, can you email
> a list of measurers with contact info, please?
>
>
>
> It was unanimous - everyone wants shirts and hats. We will come
> up with a design and ask for indications of interest from you,
> your crew, family, friends.
>
>
>
> Bill Jenkins and Denny Meigher were added to the technical
> committee replacing Dale Peppel (his request) and myself (my
> request). New language on 2 sail limit rule and boat substitution
> to be made official soon.
>
>
>
> The party was fun, food was tasty, awards were tasteful and
> unique, the "everyone wins" raffle raised $260. Thank you, Bill,
> Colleen, and Wild Riders.
>
>
>
> Comments/Questions?
>
>
>
> Michael J. Welch
>
> Senior Vice President - Investments
>
> Senior Investment Consultant
>
> Robert W. Baird & Co.
>
> 248-594-9959
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> *From:* Robert Gordenker(TIME MACHINE)
> [mailto:timemachine@ncyc.net]
> *Sent:* Monday, February 27, 2006 11:04 AM
> *To:* William Wildner
> *Cc:* Welch, Michael j; 'Lance Smotherman';
> Bernoulli59@aol.com; greggwhip@aol.com; JMamboKing@aol.com;
> ebayer@cityofwarren.org; groupgriffin@comcast.net;
> JenkinsEmail@comcast.net; lee.e.sutton@comcast.net;
> jcb13@daimlerchrysler.com; jenkinsw@dteenergy.com;
> waw82652@hotmail.com; luiz@intercreate.com;
> CHerriges@usmfg.com; billvogan@yahoo.com; kappoulos@yahoo.com;
> chuck@southbayllc.com
> *Subject:* Re: IRC
>
> Just to be clear....
>
> Remember that there are TWO different types of IRC
> Certificate... ENDORSED and UNENDORSED. Please be very clear
> about what is required. It is not sufficient to just say "IRC
> Certificate is required"!!!
>
> Robert Gordenker,
> TIME MACHINE.
>
> William Wildner wrote:
>
> And one other question to add to that.
>
> In order to get in the IRC overall is the rule all boats
> _MUST_ have Endorsed IRC rating?
>
> Bill
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Welch, Michael j [mailto:MWelch@rwbaird.com]
> Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006 9:53 AM
> To: Lance Smotherman; ahxpres@ahx1.com
> <mailto:ahxpres@ahx1.com>; Bernoulli59@aol.com
> <mailto:Bernoulli59@aol.com>; greggwhip@aol.com
> <mailto:greggwhip@aol.com>; JMamboKing@aol.com
> <mailto:JMamboKing@aol.com>; ebayer@cityofwarren.org
> <mailto:ebayer@cityofwarren.org>; groupgriffin@comcast.net
> <mailto:groupgriffin@comcast.net>; JenkinsEmail@comcast.net
> <mailto:JenkinsEmail@comcast.net>; lee.e.sutton@comcast.net
> <mailto:lee.e.sutton@comcast.net>; jcb13@daimlerchrysler.com
> <mailto:jcb13@daimlerchrysler.com>; jenkinsw@dteenergy.com
> <mailto:jenkinsw@dteenergy.com>; waw82652@hotmail.com
> <mailto:waw82652@hotmail.com>; luiz@intercreate.com
> <mailto:luiz@intercreate.com>; timemachine@ncyc.net
> <mailto:timemachine@ncyc.net>; CHerriges@usmfg.com
> <mailto:CHerriges@usmfg.com>; billvogan@yahoo.com
> <mailto:billvogan@yahoo.com>; kappoulos@yahoo.com
> <mailto:kappoulos@yahoo.com>
> Cc: chuck@southbayllc.com <mailto:chuck@southbayllc.com>
> Subject: RE: IRC
>
> Just want to be clear - Can we race level (1st to finish
> wins), yet use
>
> our individual IRC ratings towards overall?
>
> Michael J. Welch
>
> Senior Vice President - Investments
>
> Senior Investment Consultant
>
> Robert W. Baird & Co.
>
> 248-594-9959
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: Lance Smotherman [mailto:Lance.Smotherman@semcoenergy.com]
>
> Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2006 5:41 PM
>
> To: ahxpres@ahx1.com <mailto:ahxpres@ahx1.com>;
> Bernoulli59@aol.com <mailto:Bernoulli59@aol.com>;
> greggwhip@aol.com <mailto:greggwhip@aol.com>;
>
> JMamboKing@aol.com <mailto:JMamboKing@aol.com>;
> ebayer@cityofwarren.org <mailto:ebayer@cityofwarren.org>;
> groupgriffin@comcast.net <mailto:groupgriffin@comcast.net>;
>
> JenkinsEmail@comcast.net <mailto:JenkinsEmail@comcast.net>;
> lee.e.sutton@comcast.net <mailto:lee.e.sutton@comcast.net>;
>
> jcb13@daimlerchrysler.com <mailto:jcb13@daimlerchrysler.com>;
> jenkinsw@dteenergy.com <mailto:jenkinsw@dteenergy.com>;
> waw82652@hotmail.com <mailto:waw82652@hotmail.com>;
>
> luiz@intercreate.com <mailto:luiz@intercreate.com>;
> timemachine@ncyc.net <mailto:timemachine@ncyc.net>; Welch,
> Michael j;
>
> CHerriges@usmfg.com <mailto:CHerriges@usmfg.com>;
> billvogan@yahoo.com <mailto:billvogan@yahoo.com>;
> kappoulos@yahoo.com <mailto:kappoulos@yahoo.com>
>
> Cc: chuck@southbayllc.com <mailto:chuck@southbayllc.com>
>
> Subject: RE: IRC
>
> I would only add, that we would expect some form of written
> consent
>
> from each competitor that they agreed to race and be scored
> with the
>
> fastest rating rather than their own.
>
> (Don't know why you would do that, but the 120'2 certainly
> plan to!
>
> Thanks Luiz..................
>
> LS
>
>>>> "Luiz E. Kahl" <luiz@intercreate.com
> <mailto:luiz@intercreate.com>> 2/24/2006 4:15 PM >>>
>
> Bill,
>
> In order for a Level class to petition for a "Level Class IRC
> Rating"
>
> and be scored in IRC using the fastest IRC rating, all boats
> in the
>
> class are required to have a valid IRC certificate. The
> Organizing
>
> Authority (Bayview Yacht Club) does not have the authority to
> assign an
>
> IRC rating to any yacht, so a yacht must have a valid
> certificate and
>
> without every boat's valid TCC in that class, a "Level" TCC
> cannot be
>
> fairly defined.
>
> We have consulted extensively with the USSailing, US-IRC and RORC
>
> offices regarding the Level classes and here's what we have
> received
>
> from Dan Nowlan
>
> (USSA) and Mike Irwin (RORC) as it relates to what we (BYC as
> the OA)
>
> can do:
>
> Assuming your class wants compete on a level basis.
>
> 1. All of the boats in your class hold a valid IRC certificate.
>
> 2. You meet the event's requirements for a one design fleet -
> usually a
>
> minimum number of entrees
>
> 3. The race organizer agrees that even though there is a
> variation in
>
> the ratings, they will score all boats in your fleet with the
> same TCC.
>
> 4. That TCC will be the value of the fastest boat in your
> class (this
>
> protects the rest of the fleet).
>
> Once a class has been assigned a "Level TCC" number (TCC = Time
>
> Correction Coefficient = your IRC rating number) that same TCC
> number
>
> will also be used to score the boats in that class for Overall.
>
> I hope this clears this issue for you guys and hope I didn't
> overstep on
>
> Lance's authority as the Race Chairman in answering your
> questions.
>
> Luiz E. Kahl
>
> Past Chairman. :-)
>
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> --------------------------------------------------------
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: Welch, Michael j [mailto:MWelch@rwbaird.com]
>
> Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 4:02 PM
>
> To: William Wildner; Ed Bayer; CHerriges@usmfg.com
> <mailto:CHerriges@usmfg.com>; kappoulos@yahoo.com
> <mailto:kappoulos@yahoo.com>;
>
> billvogan@yahoo.com <mailto:billvogan@yahoo.com>;
> Bernoulli59@aol.com <mailto:Bernoulli59@aol.com>;
> JenkinsEmail@comcast.net <mailto:JenkinsEmail@comcast.net>;
>
> JMamboKing@aol.com <mailto:JMamboKing@aol.com>;
> jenkinsw@dteenergy.com <mailto:jenkinsw@dteenergy.com>;
> jcb13@daimlerchrysler.com <mailto:jcb13@daimlerchrysler.com>;
>
> Lee Sutton; lance.smotherman@semcoenergy.com
> <mailto:lance.smotherman@semcoenergy.com>;
> luiz@intercreate.com <mailto:luiz@intercreate.com>;
>
> groupgriffin@comcast.net <mailto:groupgriffin@comcast.net>;
> Gregg Whipple; timemachine@ncyc.net <mailto:timemachine@ncyc.net>;
>
> waw82652@hotmail.com <mailto:waw82652@hotmail.com>
>
> Cc: Chuck Stormes
>
> Subject: RE: IRC
>
> Bill & All:
>
> My understanding, per Lance, per Phil Lyon ('07 Mac chair) is
> that next
>
> year's
>
> Mac will require endorsed IRC for ALL boats. No IRC - no
> Mac. This
>
> year is the
>
> compromise - allow level, overall scoring only for boats in 100 %
>
> endorsed IRC
>
> classes.
>
> Those who want to do Mac will need IRC in 2007. Since this is
> going to
>
> be
>
> mandatory, it leaves 2 questions: do you want to race
> Mackinac if it
>
> requires
>
> IRC?, if yes, how soon would you be willing to get your IRC cert?
>
> Mike
>
> Michael J. Welch
>
> _____
>
> From: William Wildner [mailto:ahxpres@ahx1.com
> <mailto:ahxpres@ahx1.com>]
>
> Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 3:24 PM
>
> To: Welch, Michael j; 'Ed Bayer'
>
> Cc: 'Chuck Stormes'
>
> Subject: RE: IRC
>
> Do you guys know if the following is true?
>
> The class can elect the following regarding IRC ratings and
> the Mac
>
> Race?
>
> In our class we can race and be scored Level.
>
> The class can also be scored against the fleet using the
> fastest IRC
>
> rating.
>
> If this option does not require all boats to have endorsed IRC
> I believe
>
> this to
>
> be what is most likely our best option as I don't see the rest
> of the
>
> owners
>
> going for the Endorsed IRC certificate.
>
> Chuck, will you or Karl be at the meeting tomorrow?
>
> Bill
>
> _____
>
> From: Welch, Michael j [mailto:MWelch@rwbaird.com]
>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 3:23 PM
>
> To: William Wildner; Ed Bayer
>
> Cc: Lance Smotherman; luiz@intercreate.com
> <mailto:luiz@intercreate.com>
>
> Subject: IRC
>
> Bill (most influential and national Class Treasurer) and Ed
> (future
>
> class
>
> president):
>
> FYI to ponder, of 9 boats voting (Falcon, Wild Ride, Scandal,
>
> Doubleshot,
>
> Bernoulli, PDQ, Mambo, Time Machine, Steelin' Gold. Waiting
> on Train,
>
> Griffin,
>
> Detail,Jaeger,Special K, Rowdy, Snipe (I just realized I don't
> have
>
> their email.
>
> Bill do you have it, or phone. Same for Whiplash?)), 3 are
> for IRC
>
> (Falcon,
>
> Wild Ride and Scandal).
>
> "2a" (IRC in level, score to overall, 1st to finish wins)
> appears to be
>
> academic unless we convince these guys to get measured.
>
> I will not be at the meeting tonight.
>
> Lance, Luiz, what are the benefits of a level class paying up
>
> (perpetually) for
>
> IRC?.....other than the Mackinac mandate. What's being done
> about the
>
> rating
>
> disparities? Seems to be big variances among like boats.
>
> Michael J. Welch
>
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