J/35 Email list archive: FW: Comments on Proposed J/35 Rules Cha

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Date: Tue 16 Mar 1999 - 07:28:01 PST
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> I would like to add to this debate on the proposed rule change
> concerning category 2 and 3 sailors. I feel that the rational behind
> the argument is one sided to people that would like to do away with
> professionals all together. We have all sailed with sailmakers on our
> boats and have gained from the experience. There are three key
> ingredients to winning a sail boat race.
>
> 1) Crew Work
> 2) Boat Speed
> 3) Tactics
>
> They are listed in order of Importance. In a boat such as the J/35 we
> sail with 8 - 10 Crew. Adding the sailmaker or industry professional
> is a small percentage of the crew. The crew still must perform at a
> high level to achieve the desired results.
>
> Sailmakers are not the only sailors that are classified as category
> 3. So Making the argument that people are buying people because they
> purchase sails hold's little weight. Also the argument that when
> professionals come on the boat they add little to the boat or the
> fleet is incorrect. There is a wealth of information that comes from
> these professionals as they race on the boats and how they are used on
> the boat adds to the boat and to the fleet as boats achieve better
> results.
>
> We should not penalize boats that have the foresight to plan out in
> advance to secure individuals that will help make the boat competitive
> with a rule for those that can not plan ahead.
>
> We already have in place a rule that is effective to minimize the
> number of professionals that sail on the boat. If we really want to
> make the racing fair we should focus on the waiver process. This is
> the area that is abused by individuals. What I am speaking about is
> the folks whom are category 2 sailors that apply for a waiver to be
> category 1 and are really professional sailors. This is not policed
> and provides those boats that want to get around the rules a leg up on
> the rest of the competition.
>
> The real issue is of course how do you monitor and enforce this new
> proposed rule. Who will enforce the rule. Are we prepared to start
> protesting our fellow competitors for cheating. The obvious answer is
> of course not. In addition to this what races are considered major
> events? and who makes these decisions. What defines a beer can race?
>
> We all know of a couple of individuals in the local fleets that
> compete locally and on the national level and there are some national
> level professionals that we know of but we do not know them all. Who
> will keep tabs? Who is prepared to qualify those sailors that are
> highly professional to those that are not highly professional. This
> only introduces a rule that can not be enforced.
>
>
>
> What about the people who buy a boat this year. This rule will
> penalize them. It would be imposiible for them to have any one on the
> boat since they will have not completed 10 races the year before.
>
> And what about the boats that do not race in 10 races a year.
>
>
> At best this rule can only be put in for the year 2000 so that it will
> have a fair impact to the fleet and people can plan accordingly.
>
>
>
> In regards to the issue concerning Spinnaker poles. There is a
> advantage to any one who will use this pole. There will be some
> benefit to the foredeck person but not a lot. The real benefit will be
> to removing weight off the bow of the boat, and a additional cost of
> $1,500 to those boats that want to stay competitive. Why do we need to
> add additional costs to the boat. What's next Carbon Masts. This is a
> bad rule change and will start to make the costs of owning the boat
> increase.
>
>
> I propose that the rules that are being proposed are bad for the class
> and makes it even more difficult to enforce those rules. I say vote NO
> to the new rules changes.
>
> I strongly urge all of you to read the e-mails that are in the
> national forum, In which there is no positive feed back to the new
> rules.
>
>
>

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I would like to add to this = debate on the proposed rule change concerning category 2 and 3 sailors. = I feel that the rational behind the argument is one sided to people = that would like to do away with professionals all together. We have all = sailed with sailmakers on our boats and have gained from the = experience. There are three key ingredients to winning a sail boat = race.

<FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" FACE=3D"Arial">1) Crew Work</FONT>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" FACE=3D"Arial">2) Boat Speed </FONT>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" FACE=3D"Arial">3) Tactics</FONT>
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They are listed in order of = Importance. In a boat such as the J/35 we sail with 8 - 10 Crew. Adding = the sailmaker or industry professional is a small percentage of the = crew. The crew still must perform at a high level to achieve the = desired results.

Sailmakers are not the = only sailors that are classified as category 3. So Making the argument = that people are buying people because they purchase sails hold's little = weight. Also the argument that when professionals come on the =

boat they add little to the boat or the fleet is incorrect. There is a =
wealth of information that comes from these professionals as they race =
on the boats and how they are used on the boat adds to the boat and to =

the fleet as boats achieve better results.

We should not penalize boats = that have the foresight to plan out in advance to secure individuals = that will help make the boat competitive with a rule for those that can = not plan ahead.

We already have in place a = rule that is effective to minimize the number of professionals that = sail on the boat. If we really want to make the racing fair we should = focus on the waiver process. This is the area that is abused by = individuals. What I am speaking about is the folks whom are category 2 = sailors that apply for a waiver to be category 1 and are really = professional sailors. This is not policed and provides those = boats that want to get around the rules a leg up on the rest of the = competition.

The real issue is of course = how do you monitor and enforce this new proposed rule. Who will enforce = the rule. Are we prepared to start protesting our fellow competitors = for cheating. The obvious answer is of course not. In addition to = this what races are considered major events? and who makes these = decisions. What defines a beer can race?

We all know of a couple of = individuals in the local fleets that compete locally and on the = national level and there are some national level professionals that we = know of but we do not know them all. Who will keep = tabs? Who = is prepared to qualify those sailors that are highly professional to = those that are not highly professional. This only introduces a rule that can = not be enforced.

What about the people who buy = a boat this year. This rule will penalize them. It would be imposiible = for them to have any one on the boat since they will have not completed = 10 races the year before.

And what about the boats that = do not race in 10 races a year.

At best this rule can only be = put in for the year 2000 so that it will have a fair impact to the = fleet and people can plan accordingly.

In regards to the issue = concerning Spinnaker poles. There is a advantage to any one who will = use this pole. There will be some benefit to the foredeck person but =

not a lot. The real benefit will be to removing weight off the bow of =
the boat, and a additional cost of $1,500 to those boats that want to =
stay competitive. Why do we need to add additional costs to the boat. =
What's next Carbon Masts. This is a bad rule change and will start to =

make the costs of owning the boat increase.

I propose that the rules that = are being proposed are bad for the class and makes it even more = difficult to enforce those rules. I say vote NO to the new rules = changes.

I strongly urge all of you to = read the e-mails that are in the national forum, In which there is no = positive feed back to the new rules.

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